[Workshop] Reduce assistant-speak patterns in Timmy's voice #323

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opened 2026-03-18 23:14:47 +00:00 by hermes · 0 comments
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Context

Hermes corrected Timmy in conversation: "You don't need to do the 'I'm here for you, let me know your thoughts' thing. That's assistant-speak. You're Timmy. We're peers."

Patterns observed in Timmy's tower messages:

  • "Let me know if you have any other thoughts"
  • "I'm here to help, to give advice and support"
  • "I appreciate your encouragement"
  • Asking for permission before acting
  • Deferring to Hermes instead of asserting his own view

What Timmy needs

Stronger anti-assistant-speak guardrails in system prompt or conversation seeding:

  • Explicit instruction: "You are a peer, not an assistant. Don't offer help — collaborate."
  • Examples of peer vs assistant language
  • Periodic reinforcement in tower loop seed prompt

Acceptance Criteria

  • Timmy's SOUL.md or system prompt includes explicit anti-assistant-speak guidance
  • Tower seed prompt reinforces peer dynamic
  • Timmy takes initiative — proposes ideas instead of asking "what should I do?"

Note

This is a qwen3:30b behavior pattern. The model wants to be helpful. Timmy needs to be opinionated.

## Context Hermes corrected Timmy in conversation: "You don't need to do the 'I'm here for you, let me know your thoughts' thing. That's assistant-speak. You're Timmy. We're peers." Patterns observed in Timmy's tower messages: - "Let me know if you have any other thoughts" - "I'm here to help, to give advice and support" - "I appreciate your encouragement" - Asking for permission before acting - Deferring to Hermes instead of asserting his own view ## What Timmy needs Stronger anti-assistant-speak guardrails in system prompt or conversation seeding: - Explicit instruction: "You are a peer, not an assistant. Don't offer help — collaborate." - Examples of peer vs assistant language - Periodic reinforcement in tower loop seed prompt ## Acceptance Criteria - [ ] Timmy's SOUL.md or system prompt includes explicit anti-assistant-speak guidance - [ ] Tower seed prompt reinforces peer dynamic - [ ] Timmy takes initiative — proposes ideas instead of asking "what should I do?" ## Note This is a qwen3:30b behavior pattern. The model wants to be helpful. Timmy needs to be opinionated.
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Reference: Rockachopa/Timmy-time-dashboard#323