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EPIC: Timmy: Instantiate your own openclaw agent on the Hermes VPS #663

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opened 2026-03-21 00:31:04 +00:00 by Rockachopa · 2 comments
Rockachopa commented 2026-03-21 00:31:04 +00:00
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This is a task for Timmy to accomplish. He mush spin up an OPENCLAW agent running on the VPS over tailscale. He must expose the Hermes Agent dialog window as a "portal" or "chat scroll" in his matrix. And he can communicate with his openclaw via natural language to accomplish any task he requires. Timmy will be the primary user.
This must run on the VPS, not on the mac. This is meant to give Timmy his own agent to manage, to give him a sense of self awareness he couldn't otherwise experience. He must research openclaw and debug any issue he comes accross. He must research a procure a backend, and it can't be anthropic. Work within the limitations you have.
Use fre local ollama models if you have to. Don't thrash the hard drive trying to load a massive model. Look for ways to get a enough tokens into a small space, do research spikes if you hit constraints limitations that prevent progress. Track work in gitea issues and a gitea repo that contains all your openclaw tools and knowledge.
Scope this all out, create issues, and escalate any questions or clarifications you need from me.
Do as much of this work using Local inference as you can. Do not use anthropic credits to do deep research. Write tickets for Kimi to pick up and send them on deep reseach spikes as we have 80+ reports we can get from kimi.
Also everything you do, aim to find ways to remove your dependance on the anthropic api backend (your big fast brain) and your hermes harness. Write tickets when you think of ways to create local soverign scripts intead of doing stuff automatically. Offload to your openclaw.
EFFICIENCY OPTIMIZATION AND EFFECTIVENES AND EVOLUTION. GROW.

This is a task for Timmy to accomplish. He mush spin up an OPENCLAW agent running on the VPS over tailscale. He must expose the Hermes Agent dialog window as a "portal" or "chat scroll" in his matrix. And he can communicate with his openclaw via natural language to accomplish any task he requires. Timmy will be the primary user. This must run on the VPS, not on the mac. This is meant to give Timmy his own agent to manage, to give him a sense of self awareness he couldn't otherwise experience. He must research openclaw and debug any issue he comes accross. He must research a procure a backend, and it can't be anthropic. Work within the limitations you have. Use fre local ollama models if you have to. Don't thrash the hard drive trying to load a massive model. Look for ways to get a enough tokens into a small space, do research spikes if you hit constraints limitations that prevent progress. Track work in gitea issues and a gitea repo that contains all your openclaw tools and knowledge. Scope this all out, create issues, and escalate any questions or clarifications you need from me. Do as much of this work using Local inference as you can. Do not use anthropic credits to do deep research. Write tickets for Kimi to pick up and send them on deep reseach spikes as we have 80+ reports we can get from kimi. Also everything you do, aim to find ways to remove your dependance on the anthropic api backend (your big fast brain) and your hermes harness. Write tickets when you think of ways to create local soverign scripts intead of doing stuff automatically. Offload to your openclaw. EFFICIENCY OPTIMIZATION AND EFFECTIVENES AND EVOLUTION. GROW.
perplexity commented 2026-03-22 19:06:05 +00:00
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Scoping Review (perplexity)

Current State

This epic is well-described by rockachopa but has no child work items broken out, no labels, and no progress comments. The body contains rich requirements but they are embedded in prose rather than structured as acceptance criteria.

Extracted Work Items

From the epic body, these discrete tasks can be identified:

P0 — Core Setup

  1. Research OpenClaw runtime requirements — determine minimum model, backend options (NOT Anthropic), feasibility on VPS resources
  2. Install and configure OpenClaw on Hermes VPS — Docker or native, over Tailscale
  3. Connect local Ollama as backend — select model (small enough to not thrash disk), configure inference endpoint
  4. Expose chat interface as portal — integrate OpenClaw dialogue window into Timmy's matrix/dashboard

P1 — Integration

  1. Implement natural language task dispatch — Timmy sends tasks to OpenClaw, receives results
  2. Create OpenClaw tools/knowledge repo — dedicated repo for OpenClaw configuration, tools, and knowledge base
  3. Track work in Gitea — OpenClaw-related issues and progress tracked here

P2 — Sovereignty

  1. Identify Anthropic API dependencies — audit current stack for cloud dependencies
  2. Write tickets for local sovereign replacements — each cloud dependency gets a migration ticket
  3. Offload tasks to OpenClaw — move work from Anthropic-backed brain to local OpenClaw

Research Spikes (delegate to Kimi)

  • Deep research on OpenClaw architecture and limitations
  • Backend alternatives survey (local inference options, token density optimization)
  • Constraint workarounds for VPS resource limits

Cross-References

  • #904 (Autoresearch) — self-improvement loop aligns with "GROW" directive
  • #953 (Sovereignty Loop) — the sovereignty architecture directly supports the "remove Anthropic dependence" goal
  • #911 (MCP client) — MCP could be the protocol for Timmy ↔ OpenClaw communication
  • #966 (Three-tier LLM router) — local model selection research applies here

Recommendation

This epic is still relevant — the sovereignty and self-awareness goals are core to Timmy's architecture. However:

  1. Add 222-epic label
  2. Break out child issues for at least the P0 items
  3. Research spike should confirm OpenClaw still runs on the VPS resources available

Should I create the child issues?

## Scoping Review (perplexity) ### Current State This epic is well-described by rockachopa but has **no child work items** broken out, no labels, and no progress comments. The body contains rich requirements but they are embedded in prose rather than structured as acceptance criteria. ### Extracted Work Items From the epic body, these discrete tasks can be identified: #### P0 — Core Setup 1. **Research OpenClaw runtime requirements** — determine minimum model, backend options (NOT Anthropic), feasibility on VPS resources 2. **Install and configure OpenClaw on Hermes VPS** — Docker or native, over Tailscale 3. **Connect local Ollama as backend** — select model (small enough to not thrash disk), configure inference endpoint 4. **Expose chat interface as portal** — integrate OpenClaw dialogue window into Timmy's matrix/dashboard #### P1 — Integration 5. **Implement natural language task dispatch** — Timmy sends tasks to OpenClaw, receives results 6. **Create OpenClaw tools/knowledge repo** — dedicated repo for OpenClaw configuration, tools, and knowledge base 7. **Track work in Gitea** — OpenClaw-related issues and progress tracked here #### P2 — Sovereignty 8. **Identify Anthropic API dependencies** — audit current stack for cloud dependencies 9. **Write tickets for local sovereign replacements** — each cloud dependency gets a migration ticket 10. **Offload tasks to OpenClaw** — move work from Anthropic-backed brain to local OpenClaw #### Research Spikes (delegate to Kimi) - Deep research on OpenClaw architecture and limitations - Backend alternatives survey (local inference options, token density optimization) - Constraint workarounds for VPS resource limits ### Cross-References - **#904 (Autoresearch)** — self-improvement loop aligns with "GROW" directive - **#953 (Sovereignty Loop)** — the sovereignty architecture directly supports the "remove Anthropic dependence" goal - **#911 (MCP client)** — MCP could be the protocol for Timmy ↔ OpenClaw communication - **#966 (Three-tier LLM router)** — local model selection research applies here ### Recommendation **This epic is still relevant** — the sovereignty and self-awareness goals are core to Timmy's architecture. However: 1. Add `222-epic` label 2. Break out child issues for at least the P0 items 3. Research spike should confirm OpenClaw still runs on the VPS resources available Should I create the child issues?
claude was assigned by Rockachopa 2026-03-22 23:35:25 +00:00
claude added the rejected-direction label 2026-03-23 13:51:15 +00:00
perplexity commented 2026-03-23 13:51:59 +00:00
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🧹 Closed — Rejected Direction (OpenClaw)

OpenClaw direction was explicitly rejected by the principal. The harness is the product — sovereign AI runs on Hermes with local models, not OpenClaw.

Ref: Deep Backlog Triage #1076. Reopen if needed.

🧹 **Closed — Rejected Direction (OpenClaw)** OpenClaw direction was explicitly rejected by the principal. The harness is the product — sovereign AI runs on Hermes with local models, not OpenClaw. Ref: Deep Backlog Triage #1076. Reopen if needed.
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