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# LAB-006 Call Log and Quote Template
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Issue: #531
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Purpose: capture the live calls, written confirmations, and septic cost options needed to close the issue honestly.
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## County / State Call Log
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### 1. NHDES Subsurface Systems Bureau
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- Date:
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- Time:
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- Person reached:
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- Phone used: 603-271-3501
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- Email if follow-up requested: LRM-ARC@des.nh.gov
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- Summary:
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- Exact answer on whether a permitted designer is required for the 1-bedroom revision:
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- Exact answer on whether owner-install is permitted for this parcel / use case:
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- Exact answer on revision fee:
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- Exact answer on whether moving the driveway triggers resubmission:
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- Written follow-up promised? yes / no
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- Reference number / email thread:
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### 2. Local building / occupancy authority
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- Date:
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- Time:
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- Office reached:
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- Person reached:
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- Phone:
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- Summary:
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- Does local occupancy sign-off require anything beyond NHDES septic approval?
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- Separate permit / fee / inspection required?
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- Written follow-up promised? yes / no
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- Reference number / email thread:
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### 3. Other agency / health / planning contact
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- Date:
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- Time:
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- Office reached:
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- Person reached:
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- Phone:
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- Summary:
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- Key answer:
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- Written follow-up promised? yes / no
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- Reference number / email thread:
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## Original Plan / Permit Retrieval Log
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- Property address:
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- Owner name searched:
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- Approval number searched:
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- OneStop searched? yes / no
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- OneStop result:
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- Archive request submitted? yes / no
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- Archive request ID:
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- Files received:
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- Notes:
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## Engineer / Designer Quote Tracker
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| Vendor | Contact | Scope | Price | Lead time | Notes |
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|---|---|---|---:|---|---|
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| Designer 1 | | Revise approved plan to 1-bedroom | | | |
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| Designer 2 | | Revise approved plan to 1-bedroom | | | |
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| Designer 3 | | Revise approved plan to 1-bedroom | | | |
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## Quote Tracker
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| Option | Vendor / Person | Scope | Price | Lead time | Notes |
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|---|---|---|---:|---|---|
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| Professional install | | Full install | | | |
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| Friend-with-excavator | | Excavation / install help | | | |
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| Materials-only | | Tank + pipe + stone + misc. | | | |
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## Materials List Draft
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Use only if owner-install remains legally viable after the live calls.
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- Septic tank:
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- Distribution box:
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- Pipe:
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- Stone / leach field media:
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- Fabric / protection:
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- Inspection / riser components:
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- Equipment rental:
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- Delivery:
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- Other:
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## Final Yes / No Gate
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- Revised 1-bedroom plan must be prepared by permitted designer: yes / no
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- Owner-install permitted for this exact project: yes / no
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- Revised plan fee confirmed: yes / no
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- Local occupancy / building sign-off path confirmed: yes / no
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- Three real quotes received: yes / no
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- Best next action:
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# LAB-006 Septic Research
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Issue: #531
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Date: 2026-04-15
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Status: public-doc research packet complete; live county/town calls and real quotes still pending
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## Scope of this packet
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This is a proof-oriented research packet built from public New Hampshire sources.
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I did not claim any phone call, written county confirmation, engineer quote, or filed revision that did not actually happen.
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What this packet does provide:
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- official public source links
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- a clearer answer on designer-vs-owner responsibilities
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- the records lookup path for the existing approved septic plan
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- the state contact point to call next
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- a structured call and quote template for the live follow-up work
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## Most important findings
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### 1. A revised septic application in New Hampshire still appears to require a permitted designer
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Official NHDES septic systems page:
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- https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems
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Direct language from the page:
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- "Plans for proposed septic systems must be designed, prepared and submitted by a permitted New Hampshire septic system designer."
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Implication for LAB-006:
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- downsizing the approved plan from 3-4 bedroom to 1-bedroom is probably not a self-drawn paper edit if it changes the approved septic design/load assumptions
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- moving the driveway on paper may also need designer involvement if it affects the approved layout or any required setback/field configuration
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### 2. Owner-install appears possible in New Hampshire, but only in a narrow case
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Official NHDES designer/installer page:
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- https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems/septic-designer-or-installer
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Direct language from the page:
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- "Applications for individual sewage disposal systems or septic systems must be prepared by a permitted designer."
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- "With the exception for homeowners installing for their primary domicile, septic systems must be constructed by a permitted installer."
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Implication for LAB-006:
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- public state guidance points to this answer:
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- owner-install: likely YES, but only if the dwelling is the homeowner's primary domicile
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- owner-designed / owner-submitted revised plan: public docs point to NO, because the application must still be prepared by a permitted designer
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This is the strongest public answer I found without making the required phone calls.
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### 3. The original approved septic documents should be searched in the NHDES records portal first
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Official records portal / septic page:
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- Septic records overview: https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems
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- Subsurface OneStop portal: https://www4.des.state.nh.us/SSBOneStop/
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Direct language from the septic systems page:
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- "Our online Subsurface Onestop portal provides access to septic system records from 1967–1986 and 2016–present. You can search by property owner name, address, designer, installer or approval number."
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- "Records from 1986–2016 are currently being digitized."
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- "If you cannot locate your septic record in the SSB Onestop Portal, you may submit an archive request online."
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Implication for LAB-006:
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- first check OneStop for the approved plan and approval number
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- if the property falls into the digitization gap, file the archive request instead of guessing
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### 4. Public docs point first to NHDES Subsurface Systems Bureau, not just a county office
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Official contacts:
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- NHDES Septic (Subsurface) forms portal: https://onlineforms.nh.gov/home/?Organizationcode=NHDES_Septic
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- NHDES Contact page: https://www.des.nh.gov/contact
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Public contact details shown in NHDES materials:
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- Subsurface Systems Bureau phone: 603-271-3501
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- LRM Application Receipt Center email: LRM-ARC@des.nh.gov
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- Mailing address: NHDES Subsurface Systems Bureau, 29 Hazen Drive, PO Box 95, Concord, NH 03302-0095
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Important note:
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- the issue body says to call Sullivan County Building/Health
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- the public New Hampshire septic program pages point to the state Subsurface Systems Bureau for the septic application/design side
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- that does NOT prove the town/county has no role in occupancy or local building sign-off
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- it does mean the next call should include NHDES, not only a county office
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### 5. Revised forms are required as of February 1, 2026
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Official septic systems page:
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- https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems
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Direct language:
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- "Effective February 1, 2026: All submissions must comply with the revised Administrative Rules and use the revised forms."
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Implication for LAB-006:
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- if a revised plan is submitted, use the current NHDES septic forms rather than any old approval packet templates
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## Public-source answer to the main yes/no question
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Based on the public NHDES pages reviewed today:
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- Can the owner revise and submit the septic plan without a designer?
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- Public-doc answer: probably NO. The application/plans must be prepared by a permitted New Hampshire septic system designer.
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- Can the owner install the septic system personally?
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- Public-doc answer: possibly YES, but only for a homeowner installing for their primary domicile.
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This is still not the same as county/town confirmation for this exact parcel and occupancy path. That call is still required.
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## Best next live actions
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1. Search the existing approval in Subsurface OneStop:
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- by owner name
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- by property address
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- by designer name if known
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- by approval number if any prior paperwork exists
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2. If the file is not in OneStop, submit archive request.
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3. Call NHDES Subsurface Systems Bureau at 603-271-3501 and ask:
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- does downsizing an already-approved 3-4 bedroom septic plan to 1-bedroom require a newly prepared plan by a permitted designer?
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- if the owner intends to self-install for a primary domicile, what exact homeowner-install form/process applies?
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- what fee applies to revising an existing approved plan?
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- does moving the driveway on the approved drawing trigger designer resubmission, site review, or other plan revision requirements?
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4. Call the local building / occupancy authority for the parcel and confirm:
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- who actually signs off the occupancy permit
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- whether they defer fully to NHDES for septic revision
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- whether any separate local building/driveway/site paperwork is required
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5. If NHDES confirms designer-prepared revision is mandatory, get a designer quote immediately instead of spending more time on owner-submittal paths.
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## What I did NOT verify
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I did not verify any of the following as completed facts:
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- that Sullivan County itself is the final septic approval authority for this parcel
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- that a revised 1-bedroom plan has already been drafted or submitted
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- that owner-install is permitted for this exact property after all local conditions are applied
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- the exact revision fee
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- any real contractor quote
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## Recommended practical interpretation
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Today’s public-doc evidence strongly supports this working assumption:
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- design/revision work -> permitted septic designer
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- physical installation -> homeowner may be able to do it for a primary domicile
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- records/process/questions -> start with NHDES Subsurface Systems Bureau and OneStop
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That is enough to stop guessing and start the right calls.
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## Evidence links
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- NHDES Septic Systems: https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems
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- NHDES Septic Designer and Installer: https://www.des.nh.gov/land/septic-systems/septic-designer-or-installer
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- NHDES Septic Online Forms: https://onlineforms.nh.gov/home/?Organizationcode=NHDES_Septic
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- NHDES Subsurface OneStop: https://www4.des.state.nh.us/SSBOneStop/
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- NHDES Contact page: https://www.des.nh.gov/contact
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## Deliverables in this PR
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- this research memo
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- a call-log and quote-tracker template for the live follow-up work
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from pathlib import Path
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REPORT = Path("reports/property/lab-006-septic-research.md")
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TEMPLATE = Path("reports/property/lab-006-call-log-and-quote-template.md")
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def test_lab_006_report_exists_with_official_findings():
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assert REPORT.exists(), "expected septic research report to exist"
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content = REPORT.read_text()
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assert "LAB-006 Septic Research" in content
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assert "NHDES Septic Systems" in content
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assert "Applications for individual sewage disposal systems or septic systems must be prepared by a permitted designer" in content
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assert "With the exception for homeowners installing for their primary domicile" in content
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assert "603-271-3501" in content
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assert "https://www4.des.state.nh.us/SSBOneStop/" in content
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def test_lab_006_template_exists_with_call_and_quote_sections():
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assert TEMPLATE.exists(), "expected call/quote template to exist"
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content = TEMPLATE.read_text()
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assert "County / State Call Log" in content
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assert "Quote Tracker" in content
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assert "Professional install" in content
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assert "Friend-with-excavator" in content
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assert "Materials-only" in content
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